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869:  ◆f/UruE.G8.  [] 2014/07/28(月) 03:34:03.57 ID:ZQ6nG/Aw0

>>868 is a mere sabotage. Please ignore him.
He asserts that we abandoned the vote result, just because we built a new thread. Does it make any sense?
And this is how, they (opposing rabid minority) have sabotaged our discussion and voting.

For instance, they had threatened us dozens of times before the voting.
"If you vote and show your IP address, I might go to your work places"
"Showing IP address can lead to the leakage of the personal information such as credit-card number."
http://awabi.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/gogaku/1405348161/60
http://awabi.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/gogaku/1405348161/279
and so on and so forth.

I'm exhausted...
Please give our 外国語（英語除く）board a weapon to fight back vandalism.

I appreciate your daily hard work.
Best regard, 外国語（英語除く）板

* My first trip(◆OXgwxAc3nk) key has been hacked by someone who used it for impersonation. So, I have been forced to change trip key. Sorry for the trouble.
http://awabi.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/gogaku/1405348161/895 (impersonation)

http://agree.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1393063744/869

876: 動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる [sage] 2014/07/30(水) 00:03:10.78 ID:/dY8JYtB0

Dear Jim,
Re: Foreign Languages Board

(if and only if ◆f/UruE.G8.= ◆OXgwxAc3nk)

[POINT A] >>869
It’s a real shame that ◆f/UruE.G8. misled you by a very unfaithful English summary of the text written in Japanese:
http://awabi.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/gogaku/1405348161/279
A possible literal translation:
> How many people here know the details of the information leak of personal data which occurred last year at 2ch?
> Don’t you remember the upheaval, saying that not only e-mail address and credit card numbers,
> but also all the texts posted with the IDs, of those who bought [so called MARU for] 2ch viewer, were able to be identified?
> But, did the administration staff of 2ch compensate the victims, fulfilling their responsibility?
> The first speaker of the thread (>>1) will certainly evade her/his responsibility, if there are such problems.

I do never understand how she/he could conclude, from this post, that “they had threatened”,
by summarising it by the following biased phrase "Showing IP address can lead to the leakage of the personal information
such as credit-card number."

[POINT B]
Contrarily to what she/he tries to say in >>869, she/he wrote himself at the very end of the first thread:
http://awabi.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/gogaku/1405348161/990
>990 名前： ◆f/UruE.G8. [] 投稿日：2014/07/27(日) 00:08:15.87
(…..)
>外国語（英語除く）板では強制ID制を望む声がありますが、
>このスレッドで強制ID制導入についての皆さんのご意見を伺いたいと思います。(……)
You may translate that heading:
> As some of us would like to introduce the forced ID into this foreign language board,
> in this thread, we’d like to hear your opinions concerning the possible introduction of the forced ID.

If she/he thinks that the decision was already made, why did she/he propose such lines for the next thread?

Two more facts:
(1) Because of her/his hot tempered character, even her/his pros recommended her/him not to write in the thread:
http://awabi.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/gogaku/1406388326/21
http://awabi.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/gogaku/1406388326/24
and she/he doesn’t appear after these posts.
It means that she/he abandoned his role of managing the thread and the discussion, doesn’t it?

(2) But the most important one: as you observe in the posts from the end of the first thread to the second one,
a really substantial discussion was held on this weekend.
This fact means, on the foreign language board, we have to spare SOME WEEKS to have a real discussion.
It’s not yet time to vote.

Thanks again, and really sorry to bother you...
We continue to discuss, and bring our conclusion in one month.

http://agree.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1393063744/876

887:  ◆aPhqEdfP5P.R  [sage] 2014/10/28(火) 01:56:06.83 ID:Uu1WtiFd0 BE:947631972-?2BP(0)

/// The summary of argument ///
[Agreeing opinion of ID display]
It is easy to identify a write-in person.
Abusive language can be hidden using an exclusive browser function.
A specific person can be made undisplayed.
An offender can be collectively reported to management.
A barren argument and acting in a play of their own writing can be restricted.
Writing with criminality can be checked.

[Dissenting opinion of ID display]
The amount of writing of the whole board decreases and there is fear of decrease in population.
It is meaningless if IP is changeable.
It is not late even if it puts in, after a board is ruined.
Illustrating thread, it is unnecessary.
The argument has not been rendered yet.
There is a possibility that an opportunism utterance may come out from the flow of an argument.
It is hard to write the off-color talk.
It is hard to maintain the freedom of an utterance.

[Agreeing opinion of Name-of-a-prefecture display]
It is indicated by discernment still more finely than ID display.
It becomes difficult to do acting in a play of its own writing using a smart phone etc.
A rumor, spoofing, etc. are discriminable.

[Dissenting opinion of Name-of-a-prefecture display]
With idle talk, a local name of a prefecture becomes a fixed handle name easily.An external person flows into a sales thread and there is fear of confusion.
It is easy to become specification of viewing and listening in a broadcast out-of-bounds area, and district people's discrimination.
It is hard to carry out the writing which hides privacy that a local individual is easy to be specified.

http://agree.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1393063744/887

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