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861(3): ◆OXgwxAc3nk 2014/07/23(水)13:24 ID:A6f9DOkd0(2/2) AAS
【RESULT】 Adopted by majority ballot
Valid: 24
in favor: 21
in opposed:3
【summary of the discussion】
Positive opinion
・会話の流れが見やすくなるので賛成
・自作自演の抑止力になるので賛成
・NG登録できるので賛成
・荒らしが卑怯な脅しで投票を潰そうとしているのを見て賛成になった
省14
862(3): 動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる 2014/07/23(水)21:33 ID:ydMhq4tt0(1) AAS
>>860-861
Dear Jim,
This decision was made in a very biased way, and by an inappropriate vote:
as observed in the first proposition in the thread,
the day of the vote, its duration were fixed already by this ◆OXgwxAc3nk
without discussion, and the discussion was, in reality, never held after that.
He did not reply to any questions neither comments against his very violent
manner of executing this vote, as you can find in the thread.
In fact, concerning such a relatively ‘slow’ board,
we have to dedicate a much longer time to discuss and to vote.
省6
863(1): 862 2014/07/23(水)21:37 ID:Jj+qjQia0(1) AAS
>>860-861
In addition,
the summary of the pros and cons is very biased,
especially that of negative ones...
864: ◆OXgwxAc3nk 2014/07/24(木)23:09 ID:o8D7aUZt0(1) AAS
I don't see any relevance between the voting fairness and who decide the schedule as long as it is reasonable enough and announced properly.
In fact, there had been no objection to the voting date until he bursted in just 30 minutes before the starting time of the poll.
And then he insisted
"The voting period is too short. It should be more than a week. And also we should discuss the period of discussion, and discuss changing the default name to announce discussion. And discuss, and discuss"
2chｽﾚ:gogaku
So I replied to him.
"I have surveyed (followed) precedent cases which jim-san accepted. Not to worry."
Furthermore the majority of the discussion thread dissented against his(◆WcWT26mRRQ) last-minute proposal.
2chｽﾚ:gogaku
2chｽﾚ:gogaku
省8
865: The die is cast. 2014/07/24(木)23:50 ID:QqBKoMHF0(1) AAS
>>862>>863
You even if residents of a foreign language board,
this means that make sense?
「 Alea jacta est！ 」 The die is cast.
“It is no use crying over spilt milk.”
Anyway, we've all crossed the Rubicon.
866: 862 2014/07/25(金)05:30 ID:3apfQBHd0(1) AAS
Dear Jim,
If you check some of the threads on the board of foreign languages,
where we are talking about languages having relatively small speakers in the world,
you’ll find the response(s) to a question are often posted after some days,
or even more than one or two weeks (and they are often posted on weekends).
So, the time for discussion fixed by ◆OXgwxAc3nk in the very first post without any discussion, in a very violent way,
2chｽﾚ:gogaku
i.e. only ONE WEEK, and only ONE DAY for the vote on weekdays, are really too short and inappropriate for our board,
to have a substantial discussion with a larger public on the board.
As an autonomy procedure, therefore, we’d like to discuss this problem more slowly, step by step, on a solid basis.
省2
867: 動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる 2014/07/25(金)16:37 ID:5rlWZzID0(1) AAS
ここは申請スレッドであって議論スレッドではないと思うのですが
862はいつまで続けるつもりなのでしょうか
ルール違反をして意見を主張することは不利になるだけだと思います
外国語板の当該スレで意見を書かれてはどうですか
868(2): 動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる 2014/07/27(日)23:04 ID:fNAdPVH40(1) AAS
>>860-861
Finally, we continue to discuss the problems.
So, could you cancel that request and wait our final conclusion, please?
Here is the next thread for the discussion
build after the request of ◆OXgwxAc3nk;
【自治スレ】外国語（英語除く）板の強制ID制導入議論 ★2
2chｽﾚ:gogaku
869(1): ◆f/UruE.G8. 2014/07/28(月)03:34 ID:ZQ6nG/Aw0(1) AAS
>>868 is a mere sabotage. Please ignore him.
He asserts that we abandoned the vote result, just because we built a new thread. Does it make any sense?
And this is how, they (opposing rabid minority) have sabotaged our discussion and voting.
For instance, they had threatened us dozens of times before the voting.
"If you vote and show your IP address, I might go to your work places"
"Showing IP address can lead to the leakage of the personal information such as credit-card number."
2chｽﾚ:gogaku
2chｽﾚ:gogaku
and so on and so forth.
I'm exhausted...
省5
870: 動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる 2014/07/28(月)08:50 ID:RcPkftON0(1) AAS
>>868 is a sneaky fucking fake ! we say that " yataro "
Ｈｅ is Ｔｅｒｒｉｂｌｅ " ＡＲＡＳＨＩ"
871: ◆Xg14QDKGRI 2014/07/28(月)23:11 ID:p5ZBfEZ80(1) AAS
通販・買い物(外部ﾘﾝｸ:nozomi.2ch.netに強制IDの導入を宜しくお願いします。
議論スレ
通販買い物板にも「強制ID」を希望します
2chｽﾚ:shop
自治スレ
通販・買い物板自治スレ Part2
2chｽﾚ:shop
【通販・買い物】自治スレ Part1【質問・論議】
2chｽﾚ:shop
投票スレ
省17
872(4): 動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる 2014/07/29(火)04:21 ID:a32UBauP0(1/2) AAS
ジムさんへ
私達、相撲板の住人はID表示について議論し、そして投票を行いました。
板名：相撲
板アドレス：2ch板:sumou
変更申請内容：強制ID化
議論スレッド：2chｽﾚ:siberia
議論期間：2014/07/08〜2014/07/28
投票スレッド：2chｽﾚ:vote
投票期間：2014/07/27(sun) 18:00 〜 2014/07/28(mon) 18:00
議論要約：
省10
873(1): 動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる 2014/07/29(火)07:41 ID:ZRF7w9FV0(1) AAS
相撲板住人ですが、>>872の投票結果、賛成票に同一人物の大量自作自演の跡が見えます
【相撲板】強制ID制導入に関する投票スレ
2chｽﾚ:vote
大勢に影響ないのかもしれませんが、賛成票の再集計を端末番号も確認して慎重にしてください
よろしくおねがいします
投票宣伝スレ
2chｽﾚ:sumou
874(1): 動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる 2014/07/29(火)14:44 ID:a32UBauP0(2/2) AAS
>>873
多重投票疑いがある類似IPは最大７票で、以下が一覧になります
KD182250245011.au-net.ne.jp
KD106136160007.au-net.ne.jp
KD182249247003.au-net.ne.jp
KD182249245009.au-net.ne.jp
KD182249240030.au-net.ne.jp
KD106169082052.au-net.ne.jp
KD182249241004.au-net.ne.jp
875: 動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる 2014/07/29(火)14:56 ID:EWu0uMTG0(1) AAS
>>874
投票総数も画面上非表示の端末IDも全て確認した上でID変更するんだから具体的な報告は不要ですよ。
876(1): 動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる 2014/07/30(水)00:03 ID:/dY8JYtB0(1) AAS
Dear Jim,
Re: Foreign Languages Board
(if and only if ◆f/UruE.G8.= ◆OXgwxAc3nk)
[POINT A] >>869
It’s a real shame that ◆f/UruE.G8. misled you by a very unfaithful English summary of the text written in Japanese:
2chｽﾚ:gogaku
A possible literal translation:
> How many people here know the details of the information leak of personal data which occurred last year at 2ch?
> Don’t you remember the upheaval, saying that not only e-mail address and credit card numbers,
> but also all the texts posted with the IDs, of those who bought [so called MARU for] 2ch viewer, were able to be identified?
省28
877: 悔弥太郎、妬弥太郎ｗ 2014/08/01(金)00:59 ID:wSOptNeY0(1) AAS
>>876
おや？まだ悔弥太郎が？ｗｗｗ
878: 動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる 2014/08/14(木)08:21 ID:vfSmzaMG0(1) BE AAS
>>872について早期対応願います。
879(1): 動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる 2014/08/28(木)21:57 ID:q7dZwlJP0(1) BE AAS
hello Jim-san
Im Doll-Board user.
2ch板:doll
We discussed and voted about displaying IDs in this thread.
discuss : 2chｽﾚ:doll
vote : 2chｽﾚ:vote
Result here.
Approval : 121
Opposite : 1
Please change the IDs settings in the SETTING.TXT, BBS_FORCE_ID=checked.
880: 動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる 2014/08/29(金)22:46 ID:e2B2r9PO0(1) BE AAS
>>879
対応して頂きました。
ありがとうございます。
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